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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.08.04 08:54:00 -
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BoB and Xelas have taken over Fountain completely.
Pretty much all remenants of the old owners have been removed including most of their assets last weekend when they shipped them out.
No real fighting is going on apart from one corp trying to pirate the area with cruisers every now and again.
When you get back from your holidays, please get in touch with one of the BoB leaders (Blacklight, Galavet or SirMolle) to sort standings for a visit at anytime in the area to see the situation for yourself.
thx
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Posted - 2005.08.07 14:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Edoo
Yes, Tenal is no longer contested and is under full PA control. NBSI alliance should also be marked in as living in the area. Great Wildlands is a warzone i figure, Tenerifis seems contested, but it will probably not remain this way for long, and Fountain should be Xelas, 'within BoB' if you know what i mean.
Told you before, don't talk rubbish about BoB if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Xelas are not part of BoB. Xelas are a separate alliance who co-habit Fountain with BoB at the minute.
FA are gone completely.
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Posted - 2005.08.08 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo
Chill lol, I don't think you quite understood my post. When i said within BoB i mean the Xelas colour has the BoB colour around it (Rather like how Quarath showed the Northern Coalition of allies).
I understood your post perfectly and allow me to re-iterate what I said above.
You worry about your own alliance and the space it contains and how it should be shown on the map and let us inform the mapmaker of our territory.
Thx,
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Posted - 2005.08.09 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/08/2005 15:04:03
Alasse, Lilan, I've already answered above for this.
Please read you newbs and stop spamming the thread.
thx,
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Posted - 2005.08.14 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Angelhunter
Can we please have an "at war" icon placed in the Fountain Region for Vertigo Coalition Vs. Bob/Xelas. Any questions about our forces in the area and intentions and such can be directed to me in-game. Thanks.
A~
Just swop the current Fountain vs BoB for this one.
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Posted - 2005.08.17 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/08/2005 15:58:37
EDIT: goddamnit blacklight, you beat me to the exact same question. I'd been pondering how to phrase that without potential for enemy flaming for about 20 minutes ;)
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Posted - 2005.08.18 12:46:00 -
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It's pretty simple...
Imp want to contest Fountain, we want to contest Cloud Ring.
So just mark them both as contested for the next 6-12 months and let's see who is standing at the end of it.
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Posted - 2005.08.31 09:32:00 -
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1 random dude killing 1 random bs and a proph in a week does not mean you are contesting the region.
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Posted - 2005.09.01 23:16:00 -
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Regions should continue to be on a region to region basis as they have been.
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Posted - 2005.09.07 10:55:00 -
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Since the map has been updated since TWD's statement I relay it again.
Fountain is not being contested.
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Posted - 2005.09.08 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: TWD
I quote Coug from VC (1 week ago):
Originally by: Coug
We might not be strong enough or organized enough to make Fountain our home as of yet, but that's fine. Unlike the FA of old, we understand our limits and understand how to adapt to change. We enjoy the guerilla attacks and lifestyle infinately better than fleet fights as they are in this day in age.
That is exactly what it comes down to - little warskull fits that nicely instead of being contested.
But VC are not the only group operating in Fountain. FYI DK4-3WE is also a part of Fountain and is controlled by ELA and friends, I never see any Xelas or BOB in WY-9LL, A1-CON is a mix of the FA corps living there and Xelas trying to pass through to their POS in TU without getting ganked. FA also have a presance in Chimera and just north of Core. Imperium make regular incursions into Core and force Bob/Xelas to Dock for long periods.
Whilst VC alone are not enough to contest the region all these hostiles together mean Bob is far from in control of the Fountain region
Yes, it's a warzone. That's exactly what you described. No-one is contesting the region from us.
If you want to contest the region then say it clearly pugwash. A simple "we are contesting the region post".
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Posted - 2005.09.15 10:02:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/09/2005 10:02:44
Quote:
Patience is the greatest of all virtues.
Cato the Elder (234 BC - 149 BC)
The mapmaker is doing an awesome job, along with the constant moderation of the thread and the general acceptance by the eve community to follow the rules of the thread, this thread currently works very well.
Josh does not, imo, need to speed up the updates because everyone can see what updates people have reported in the actual thread. By checking the current map and reading the posts that are in the thread you will have as accurate a picture of the eve political situation as you can get.
Keep up the good work, Josh.
thx,
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Posted - 2005.09.17 09:08:00 -
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Imp have abandoned Outer Ring, BoB are now in control.
They are down to minimal forces in the area therefore it should remain as a warzone.
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Posted - 2005.09.17 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/09/2005 12:38:08
There is no ego. There is only facts.
Come take a look for yourself josh, Outer Ring is for the most part abandoned. That includes everything outside 4c- as well as the system we base from.
And please, do not turn this thread into a flamefest.
Thanks,
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Posted - 2005.09.19 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tansien
Originally by: Raxxar
Cache has 3 systems of .5 and 2 systems of RA for ages, isn't it a reason for "contested" mark?
They dont hold any of the conq stations, so you mean that if we fly up to "IRON" (or whoever) territory and place a POS there we're contesting the region, even if we dont have any troops there?
Agreed.
Pos + troops + offical forum post declaring the contesting of a region = Contested Region.
Constant daily attacks from troops over a sustained period of time with the troops living in the region or very nearby (not just roadtrips) = Warzone.
Pretty simple i.m.o.
Lots of peeps in this thread seem to just want thier name on the map without actually putting in the groundwork in the game.
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Posted - 2005.09.19 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
tbh.. Pos + troops can = road trip also..
ofc, but combined with an official statement of intent in the forums then it is a contested region.
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for a weekend then it's just a roadtrip...
If it is a roadtrip with pos and troops for an extended period then it is a warzone :)
imo ofc
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Posted - 2005.09.27 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/09/2005 08:06:41
Imp have abandoned Outer Ring. There is no fighting there (as can be seen from our killboard.)
BoB forces are in control of the region.
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Posted - 2005.10.24 07:19:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/10/2005 07:20:11
Originally by: j0rz
I don't see why alliances should be allowed to rest empire from factions, because tbh if bob go against Armarr and it's made offical, no offence but if CCP set armarr to kill any BOB, ud lose so bad, and if CCP game controllers sent armarr fleets to low sec, ud die, i think ur kidding urself tbh
Let me highlight the important parts of your post.
Originally by: j0rz
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Originally by: j0rz
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Originally by: j0rz
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Originally by: j0rz
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Your post has no relevance to whether or not there should be a warzone in Aridia to warn neutrals that we are killing everything there.
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Posted - 2005.10.24 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: j0rz
Its not ur space and nor will it ever be
And at no point have we tried to claim it.
Please read before wasting bw,
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Posted - 2005.10.26 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Paul Castrin
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Still not marked Fountain as contested?
VC have controlled 3WE-D4 for months and have had a large force in Fountain core systems for 4 weeks.
We fight Xelas and Bob in fountain on a daily basis.
Bob announce they are attacking Aridia and you give them a war zone marker within a week, VC fight in Fountain every day for months and cannot get contested space.
During my tour in Fountain 1.5 weeks ago i found quite a few bobs and a lot of Xelas. I also found 2 VC's and 1 FAer and 2 neutrals. Aridia on the other hand as an obvious hostile Bob presence...
It's an understandable mistake to think that Fountain is not contested. Since you don't say when you went there it's quite possible that you didn't see many VC around. The area has a noticeable ebe and flow that I think you have missed but being that your just one person, like I said, it's understandable.
We have refused to play BoB's game. Blobing is not winning control of a region, but having multiple systems not 'safe' for our enemies to travel through is. Currently we have major forces in core which are keeping BoB in station during our time (note: one problem, and this happened in the BoB vs FA war, is that differing timezones are playing a major factor in the region). Forces in other areas of Fountain are set to harass and impede any enemies from travailing safely through. As for Aridia, honestly we don't worry about it. Its Empire space, and a nice vacation area, but hardly of any more interest than that.
On a personal note I think your doing a fine job as map maker. I had to do a similar 'job' in another game that had a strategic element to it so I know what youÆre up against. Keep up the good work and we'll try to keep you on your toes. 
Peace.
You are not contesting Fountain. You have not came in, stuck your flag down and said "this is ours".
You know you can't do that because you do not have the forces to do that.
If you did, you would have done it.
That is why there is a warzone in Fountain and not a contested region.
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 26/10/2005 17:16:34
In the same way that using the dictionary definition of pirate for this game, the dictionary definition of contested doesn't work.
Please read JF's initial post on the front for his official take on it.
And in your own words... you are a mobile force, how can you hold territory?
Thinking a place is your home is not the same as actually holding territory because if that was the case then please, mark BKG as mine on the map because my heart will always belong to it.
thanks,
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Posted - 2005.10.27 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Toohot
fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
Please leave the map claims to corporations/alliances actually involved in the regions please.
If either side from any of the regions has anything to say I am sure they will.
Thanks,
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Posted - 2005.10.27 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Toohot
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Toohot
fountain is contested space bob vs vertigo coalition and outer ring is not in bob control norad has control over the region no bob at all in that region
Please leave the map claims to corporations/alliances actually involved in the regions please.
If either side from any of the regions has anything to say I am sure they will.
Thanks,
dbp
well since the smite brotherhood are members of vertigo coalition and we fighting bob if you where thier fighting instead of mining and npcing in delve you would know
thank you
Then as already stated in the last time by your own members:
"VC is a mobile force who do not wish to hold territory"
Bit difficult to contest a region when you don't want to hold territory.
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/10/2005 09:15:11
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus
Thats one thing you cannot use against VC. Things change, when VC said that it was just Rubra and DMGI now VC are larger.
That was a direct quote from a VC member before the last thread clean up yesterday.
As I stated above, unless you are actually involved in the fighting, please refrain from commenting and turning this thread into a flamefest.
thanks again lame troll alt,
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Posted - 2005.10.27 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/10/2005 10:30:08
Originally by: Aquiesse Erus
Back on top, VC diserve a warzone marker.
They have a warzone marker. 
Please leave the commenting to people actually involved in the war.
Thanks again lame troll alt,
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Posted - 2005.10.31 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Catella
hi!
yes it might be time to put the contested flag up over outer ring once again.. presence of both bobs and norads last night.. dont know how the negotiations are going.. but contested for sure..
Hi,
Until a proper NORAD diplomat stands up and says they are contesting the region then the region simply isn't being contested.
Considering they have made a very large point of publically disclaiming all alt posts recently, I imagine yours will be ignored too.
There have been some occasional ganks by us this weekend against some interlopers into our territory but there is no real fighting going on.
Thanks,
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Posted - 2005.10.31 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Catella
hi!
yes it might be time to put the contested flag up over outer ring once again.. presence of both bobs and norads last night.. dont know how the negotiations are going.. but contested for sure..
not an official norad post, any official postings will be made by Takagamu.
Thanks for the clarification Sableye.
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Posted - 2005.11.02 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy
Please Add:-
BoB vs Unassociated
Exuro Mortis vs Unassociated
IMP vs Exuro Mortis
All happening in the Aridia region.
Were not locals in Aridia...
Unassociated have moved out of Aridia.
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Posted - 2005.11.09 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 00:16:46
Originally by: oidalia
actually its up to the mapmaker/the community and well SA territory is for sure contested (that doesnt need any claims of G or Iron).
Actually, I disagree.
It's up to the corps involved to inform Joshua if they are contesting a region or not.
G/Iron might be there for a roadtrip, they might be there to stay.
Without an alliance informing the public of a serious intention to take over a region then it isn't being contested.
I am sure they will let the community know if they are intending on doing so.
oh and chicken lamer alts shouldn't have a say either way.
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Posted - 2005.11.09 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 08:33:22
Originally by: oidalia
i consider 30+ G POS in SA's outpost system more than a road trip but whatever this whole "contested" thing is anyways kinda useless because its changing so often and so fast that the map can hardly show whats really happening.
If they have 30+ POS in the outpost system then sounds to me like they wanna kill the outpost.
So yes, that would be an extended roadtrip and not contesting the region.
Not really sure why this is so hard to understand tbh, if G say they are or are not contesting a region then you can't really argue with that.
Jorz: leave the smaktalk out unless you have something to contribute to the map thread, there are plenty of other random threads in here to wee over.
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Soul Redemption
bob does not control the outer ring region its a very much disputet area
*sigh*
Please check Page 2 of this thread before you post.
Specifically the part where any official posts will be made by Takagamu for NORAD.
Thanks,
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Posted - 2005.11.11 13:53:00 -
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2 weeks is fine.
If anyone is interested in any changes since the last map then all they need to do is read this thread (which is cropped at each map update).
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Spuki
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Why dont you mark the empire as BOB territory? Didnt they say they will control it?
Nope.
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 14/11/2005 11:56:18
Concerning Venal, I just thought I'd mention that we spent the weekend up in Venal.
We saw very little had changed from the time that we had left 11 months ago except [5] has moved en masse into H-PA.
There were about 10-15 PA members scattered between PF-QHK and 6NJ (BKG was surprisingly empty). This was on both Saturday and Sunday (the time when historically Alliances are at their peak numbers).
The rest of Venal was dead.
Obviously this was just one weekend but I am sure you can check up on the situation for yourself.
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Posted - 2005.11.14 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kartassio
venal sure have a warzone marked but is not contest.
Why not?
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 14/11/2005 15:07:06
PA are only staying in two systems, PF-QHK and 6NJ. Both are NPC station systems.
This weekend there were less PA in those systems than there were [5] in H-PA.
What is the difference?
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: FinalHellSpawn
Edited by: FinalHellSpawn on 15/11/2005 18:26:23
BoB Doesn't OWN Fountain.....They have ONE small POS in 7bx and that's it. We run and own this turff and I don't see why you show them so much love. FIX IT!
Final
No.
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Posted - 2005.11.16 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Crusari
Just put a warzone in Fountain from VC.
Agreed.
Already a warzone on Fountain, has been for a long time.
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Posted - 2005.11.16 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 16/11/2005 11:11:33
Thoth, I think what peeps are getting at is that if you want to contest Venal then you need to get one of the high ranking [5] members to make a simple post in this thread stating something like:
"Hi, we are [5] and we are here to stay in Venal."
Keeps it nice and easy mate ;)
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Posted - 2005.11.16 11:56:00 -
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Haha,
Reading > *
Sorry, I missed Drilla's message :p
Thread could do with being tidied up tbh and peeps prolly should have a read of the rules at the top of the thread.
Me included :x
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Posted - 2005.11.22 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 22/11/2005 11:13:43
Alright enough.
Josh: If you think ~4 ships a day is a warzone then by all means add FA to the already present VC warzone over Fountain.
However, be careful about what that could trigger because you will potentially have every pirate corp in the game requesting a Warzone (e.g. BE etc).
Furthermore, just think how many warzones BoB could go on to create by putting a pocket of 10 pilots into every alliance space in the game.
It's up to you how you want to play it, you have the facts.
Can everyone please now stfu about fountain.
I don't know about the rest of you but is anyway else getting an amazing DEJA VU feeling of FA attempting to disrupt the Map Thread?
kthx
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Posted - 2005.11.30 10:04:00 -
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Please remove warzone 9.
Imp pulled out en masse from Aridia after Huns left for F-E and NORAD got all their assets swiped.
We haven't been fighting them for a while now.
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Posted - 2005.11.30 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: sableye
Originally by: DB Preacher
Please remove warzone 9.
Imp pulled out en masse from Aridia after Huns left for F-E and NORAD got all their assets swiped.
We haven't been fighting them for a while now.
dbp
Norad enver got any assets swiped I know you can;t stop thinking about us but that would be rona 
whoooooooops,
nothing to see here, I'm not a Norad wannabee, honest.
I meant Rona of course :|
I'm tired cut me some slack :P
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Posted - 2005.12.02 07:21:00 -
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Hi,
Baun please stop being so bitter and trying to disrupt another map thread.
BoB, we've said our peice, Josh is more than welcome to come visit any of our regions for a true reflection of the areas without listening to the bitter twisted hopes and dreams of a null alliance.
Move along, nothing to see here.
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Posted - 2005.12.02 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/12/2005 10:08:03
Baun, Target, I'm not even going to bother wasting my time reading your posts.
We answered loooong time ago in this thread, in the last thread and in the thread before that exactly WHY FA are a non-entity.
Considering they need a pair of random nobodies like you to talk for them goes a loooong way.
Concentrate on your own corps and leave the map thread to people actually involved.
Enjoy the game and please, don't be so bitter because we beat you, it is getting quite sad.
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Posted - 2005.12.14 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Political Observer
BoB is contesting Deklien.
BoB captured IRON outpost in JU-.
NO.
Quote:
5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread -Abdalion
Don't waste your time posting for BoB again.
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 21/12/2005 17:24:33
BoB controls fountain.
Since the hostiles aggressing in Fountain do not have the means to control it, it is not being contested.
If we see a change in that, we will return to defend the area and clear out any pirate infestation.
A warzone in our space is still the most accurate marker for the moment.
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Please be sure to read the rules above and keep any smak and flames out of the map thread.
A return to the past map threads is not welcome.
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 21/12/2005 17:31:35
Originally by: dabster
gj editing.
Yes apologies, I thought you stated "xelas vs fountain", not "xelas vs fountain locals". I edited my post accordingly.
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Posted - 2005.12.21 17:58:00 -
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BoB has laid official claims to it, hence why it is under our control.
BoB lives there but are merely on a short road trip as previously stated.
Again, just to reiterate, if we feel Fountain is under threat by anything other than a small pirate invasion, we will return.
This will be my final post on the matter and as feel I have stated our position rather firmly.
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Posted - 2005.12.22 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: TheJay
Get 30+ pilots to come up to YZ-LQL dbp, and we'll see who controls Fountain.
/me shrugs
Last time I did that and we actually got a fleet battle, we killed 14 BS and 9 support for the loss of 2 wolf's and 2 t1 frigs after we jumped into your camp and bubbles.
Forgive me if I am not particularily worried about a return trip.
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*sigh*
read my posts on page 1, specifically the last one.
GG
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:05:00 -
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Last Celest Apoc loss in Fountain was Alvaron on 01-12-2005.
Roadtrip ftw.
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Posted - 2005.12.22 08:44:00 -
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Don't worry boys, I know you miss us but we'll be back before you know it.
I hope your whining on this thread is justified by actions ingame when we return.
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Posted - 2005.12.22 11:44:00 -
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Yawn malken.
You stated your alt point, stop spamming and trolling now.
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Posted - 2005.12.22 14:53:00 -
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Celest are turning into the Burn Eden of 2006.
Please, get some more of your members and friends to troll the map thread, it's really constructive.
Considering your corp doesn't have the member base nor the balls to hold any space, I have no clue why you are whining in here.
It's going to be hilarious watching you guys turn tail and run to empire soon.
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Posted - 2006.01.06 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Puncher
Why are 7 & 10 still on the map? In all seriousness, FA is fighting Xelas in Fountain core and lower, VC has upper Fountain and Aridia on complete lock-down. There is no one (read: zip, zero, nada, nobody) fighting BoB here. No doubt, if BoB were here, someone would be fighting them - but they are not, they are busy up north. This is no secret, no one controls Fountain, however if you won't cede to that; at least remove the silly non-existent war markers.
Ty.
Hi,
We're on a short road trip and will be back SoonTM.
There are a few pirate forces around Fountain but nothing of any concern to our forces when we return.
Since no-one can challenge our claim directly, we still claim Fountain in our name and ofc, will back up that claim to the hilt.
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Ye know, the mods should just stop random people posting about a region if their alliance/corp has nothing to do with that region.
Would save a helluva alot of problems in this thread.
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Posted - 2006.01.23 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 23/01/2006 16:31:39
Originally by: pacifica
For the MAP Venal is a contess region u Can get a region by 1 system. If SO GIVE FOUNTAIN TO VC. they have POS in Fountain BOB have none.
Please leave Fountain out of your dialogue in this thread.
As VC have consistently stated, they have no desire to control Fountain.
Oh and we do have POS in fountain.
You lost Venal, good luck getting it back, I don't imagine for a second you will be too successful if 5 decide to remain there.
However, next time you are going to attempt to use a completely different situation to reflect your own, at least make some attempt to get the facts correct.
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 26/01/2006 12:53:31
Originally by: Hrypa Neriansson
Excuse me Mr Map maker, I whish to comment on the æBand of Brothers Vs Aridia localsÆ to be reviewed.
I have been basing my operations out of Aridia for the past two months I believe this is invalid since the only people I see are Vertigo Collation and Imperium Alliance patrolling the region, I have not seen these æBand of BrothersÆ anywhere within this region.
Check our kb for confirmation that we are still purging Aridia.
I'll make sure to do an agent locator on you tonight Mr Neriansson but why do I get the feeling I won't find you anywhere near aridia.
There is no need for blatant lies on the map thread, especially when they can be found out within 3 seconds of checking.
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Originally by: thedragoon
This is not the case we have over 30 pos's read to be dropped in their space
Then come back when this is done and ask for it and I'm sure the whole of eve will agree that 30 pos are expected before you come back in the thread.
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Posted - 2006.02.05 20:12:00 -
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Josh, anytime you want to drop by Fountain, please do not hesitate to do so.
Tornsoul: Until you can pull together any sort of forces to challenge our claim, please refrain from spilling onto this thread after every update when nothing has changed.
We maintain our control on fountain but ofc there are random pirate forces running around which are already represented by the warzone on the map.
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Posted - 2006.02.06 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
Ownership of region is by all means defined by those who live and defend the space against intrudes and hostiles on daily basis not by those who come once in 2 month with big force and shoot everithing that moves an are gone afret 4 days. that is in my eyes piracy not ownership of region so there fore u got the map for Outer Ring wrong for few months.
Shivaja
CHON CEO
NORAD Military Commander
Do NORAD want to officially contest Outer Ring?
A simple Yes or No will suffice.
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
No we dont want contestit. Outr Ring always was, is and will be NORAD teritory why can u get this stright guys and your fleet field trips up here newer gona change that u dont live here.
Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring
CHON ceo
NORAD Military Commander
It is under our control from when we removed yourselves and IMP from the area. It is highlighted on the map as such. If you want to take it back from us then you need to contest it in accordance with the rules stated above by the moderators and Josh.
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 06/02/2006 14:13:31
Originally by: Shivaja
well i done it i send lots of eve mails to map maker nothing change no single response i gues something smels fishy here mabey he is BOB alt thats why they hold such big area on map without changes reflecting the actual situation of the area.
Shivaja
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NORAD Military Commander
Putting forward conspiracy theories benefit no-one, everything BoB does is publically put forward on this thread backed up with factual evidence to support our claims.
But when we wish to claim/contest somewhere we generally take over the area then state on this thread clearly and without fluff.
If NORAD wish to contest the Outer Ring area from BoB's current control (as it is stated on the map) then all you need to do is move forces into the area in accordance with what Josh has directed above and state here clearly that you wish to contest it from us.
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Originally by: Shivaja
If yes means there will be contest butom on map then 'YES' becouse we alredy contest u anyway
Thank you, now that wasn't difficult was it.
We agree that this area should be contested because you are actually contesting it in-game with fleets and not just on the forums... unlike some other alliances.
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Posted - 2006.02.07 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: genocide holder
i think what norad dude trys to tell u is that if u claim a part of space u have to occupy it. what i see bob do is take a region and go on to the next. bob leaves the region to the locals and those are left alone again. thats not actualy suporting ur claim is it.
becouse bob takes so many regoins and is active over a big part of space they lose grip of whats actualy going on in the regons. they rely on the map to suply them with activitys.
this is not realy the way it should work. the map should rely on the region holders to suply the info. like as in norad does now.
Please do not entice flames in this thread mr n00b alt.
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
OK once again clearly it did not make it into changes
Outer Ring shall be marked as contested space betwen NORAD and BOB are clear on that or not
Agreed.
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Posted - 2006.02.23 09:35:00 -
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The main VC corps have left Fountain and moved to Stain a while ago. Marker 10 should be removed as such.
We still have fights with a random bunch of corps in the Aridia/d4ku are including FA/IMP/VC carebears/local aridians, so that should remain as a warzone.
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Originally by: DB Preacher
The main VC corps have left Fountain and moved to Stain a while ago. Marker 10 should be removed as such.
We still have fights with a random bunch of corps in the Aridia/d4ku are including FA/IMP/VC carebears/local aridians, so that should remain as a warzone.
cheers,
dbp
Only 1 VC corp has moved to Stain Reformation.
You are right Fountain is not a warzone it is contested 1 weekend in Fountain does not give you control nor remove a war marker.
You post above is nothing more than blatant trolling
Just to back up my post above, all VC pos have been removed, all VC have moved out of fountain into Aridia. We haven't seen seen any VC in ages.
We are in complete control in Fountain.
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash
Fountain is contested, to claim it is not even a war zone whislt you have a 50 man fleet in there enfocing your claim on the area is trolling.
Re-read the rules in big letters on the front page about contesting npc regions.
We have a 50 man fleet every night in delve as well. It doesn't mean that is contested by anyone |:
Don't see why you care anyway, your corp was the one who abandoned the area and left all your alliances pos to be cleared out without any resistance.
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: thebold
Mr Map maker, I reinstate my original request, a dedicated force has moved into Delve and we are living in those systems.
On a daily basis Ganks and gang fights are taking place, Please check either alliance kill boards for confirmation...
Please could it be noted that VC is also apart of our gangs, We are in the Blood Raider Part of Delve which is 2 or so jumps from NOL.
Please could a VC rep and BOB rep respond..
Thanks
Your original request was for a warzone over half the map which was rubbish.
However, the warzone should be placed on Delve in accordance with what you have now stated.
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Posted - 2006.03.15 13:22:00 -
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Stain Alliance have all but left the Stain Region and according to their own pilots have no desire to claim the region:
Originally by: thebold
Since SA wanted to loose its regions...
BoB is in control of 9rq upwards with SE in control below this.
I'm not personally sure of the situation in the Far West of the Region, it was VC but they have moved back up to Delve/Fountain/Aridia by all accounts.
Perhaps an SE representative could qualify where they are and are not living?
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/03/2006 14:56:33
1045 members in the SA IGA.
Delve:
About 15-20 MASS actives basing from the Delve YZ- NPC Station.
No stain POS in area, We control all PC stations, tons of BoB POS.
When the hostiles log on, they are dealt with easily.
Stain:
About 20-30 actives spread out across the whole region living in NPC stations. All have been removed from 9rq.
No Pos in area, we have Pos in area.
No build up of SA fleets, no organisation, no peace to do anything.
No clue where the other ~950 members are.
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:05:00 -
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Please read the definition of control on the front page and stop arguing in the map thread with completely illogical arguments.
You roam uncontested in delve?
Please do not come in here and lie.
"SA's definition of owning a home" is not the definition stated on this thread or held by the general populace of Eve.
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: thebold
Originally by: DB Preacher
No clue where the other ~950 members are.
Stain is bigger than 9rq. Much bigger.
20 bob in 9rq~
30 bob in NOL~
about 50 carebears in Paragon/Aridia/Delve
Gee can i argue the same thing now?
Pull together a fleet to 9rq or NOL and see how big we are.
That's the definition of size and trust me, ours is significantly bigger than yours.
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Posted - 2006.03.17 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
I'm not personally sure of the situation in the Far West of the Region
Have been checking up on this and it is a complete wasteland over there.
There isn't any major influencing alliance in that region. No-one has any pos up, it's pretty much up for grabs.
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Posted - 2006.03.19 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
I am here by to declare that Outer Ring is not contested space any more is owned and ruled by NORAD alliance we were in contested mode with BOB for more than month and half and they fail to present them selves with any reasonable force here and as i stated here many times before ownership of region is presented by those who live there and defend the region against any hostile forces show in that region not by those who come here more than 5 months ago with big fleet and leaving after 4 days so dear map maker if u be so kind and set this right that the rest of the comunity can see who is the rightful owner of the region besides not speaking that we got full suport od NPC entity defactly conttoling majrity of the NPC stations in that region !!!
We agree fully.
Grats.
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Posted - 2006.03.24 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/03/2006 09:45:30
Hi,
I'd like to clarify the position in Stain at this exact point in time. If it changes then I'll reiterate later.
I have no clue who Novus Nationis are. Never seen them in stain, never seen them in Delve.
BoB have now cleared everything North of 4GQ except for one last system of HM- where the corporation "The Raven Warriors" are the only corporation in Stain putting up a territorial fight.
The rest of SA have pulled out, en masse, from Stain and any contradiction to this is simply a lie.
I can corroborate that with the following quotes by SA members:
Originally by: thebold
All SA corps are moving into Southern and Northen Delve to engage the enemy on there home turf.
Originally by: Cuebick
We're not dead, and we're not in Stain
SE are in complete control of 4gq and we are not fighting them for control of Southern Stain at all. You will need to contact a representative of SE to confirm how far their control goes.
The West of Stain is devoid of any meaningful life since VC left.
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:24:00 -
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Dude, don't waste your time posting rubbish.
No one takes you seriously at all, not even your own alliance according to your alliance chat.
RFM are in VC. RFM were in Stain. VC were therefore in Stain.
That isn't really rocket science now is it.
As for the rest, you said yourself that you had left to come bring it to us in delve again only 2 weeks ago.
Sorry if I'm not a mind-reader and you have now returned to Stain (but wait, that's not VC right, it's only RFM who are VC, no wait, I'm confused)
From what I can see, you have 1 character in fountain, 1 character in delve and 1 character in Stain and want to claim you are contesting all 3 regions.
How about this... You concentrate on what VC are doing, you know... your alliance, the one that you are in and leave BoB to deal with our alliance.
So make it simple.
What "exactly" are VC doing? Are they living in Stain, Delve or Fountain? Are they trying to contest any of the regions?
Stop messing up the map thread with pointless flames about what BoB are doing and simply post about what YOU are doing.
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:56:00 -
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So you posted initially to agree with me that VC isn't in Stain at present.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
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Posted - 2006.03.24 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: UnIQu3
Edited by: UnIQu3 on 24/03/2006 14:00:37
Originally by: DB Preacher
So you posted initially to agree with me that VC isn't in Stain at present.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
dbp
But controlling 1 system wich u dont.(9rq, where you got a pos), is enough to contest the hole region? and where is this POS you killed in stain? wasnt it one in catch?
I like to say that SA is contesting delve region, cause we have controle of yz9 80% of the time...!
Could the map maker please look trhough all these bob forum warriors posts.
At no time have I ever said we are contesting the whole region.
Reading > *
(p.s. we killed the pos in 9rq)
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Posted - 2006.03.31 07:35:00 -
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Just to clarify the situation... AGAIN.
Stain
BoB is not contesting the whole of Stain. We are contesting the area north of 4GQ.
We have removed all resistance except 1 remaining area which is being defending by "The Raven Warrior" corp and a few other randoms. Every other system in that area is clear for the most part.
We have culled back our forces in the area as there is no need to camp 3 people with 30 every evening. Should there be an increase in numbers in the area, we will return, en masse, to deal with the threat.
SE are in control of 4GQ and south of that system.
No significant alliance controls the West of Stain, there are some very minor blips in that area but that is all.
Delve
We hold this region. We control this region. Stain are stuck in two NPC systems. We keep them camped into those systems for most of the time. For most of the day they remain in ss or stations.
They are not a threat to our industry nor a threat to our people.
A region should only be contested if someone is actually contesting it.
I really don't think you guys get the whole map thing, you just want to lie and try and keep your names on the map but hide in Empire. It's almost a carbon copy of what happened with FA up in Fountain when they were initially kicked out. (This isn't a discussion about past FA either, what is in the past, is in the past in this thread.)
I really don't understand why people continue a pretend alliance who won't fight for territory ingame but will happily come onto the forums and say that they are contesting this and that.
If you want to contest then please, by all means, create a fleet, bring some capital ships, destroy our industrial poses, take our stations and I'll be the first on here to say "PRAISE THE LORD, OUR REGION IS CONTESTED".
Otherwise, stfu and quit whining like a 3 yr old who has been pushed out of the sandbox.
I can say with almost 100% certainty that if Delve was ever made contested by the "forces" you have in that region currently then it will be a sorry day for the map because the day after, I'll stick 5 guys in every region in the game and make it ALL contested.
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Posted - 2006.03.31 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/03/2006 09:13:17
Originally by: Orc A
DBP, if you cant follow the thread rules, don't post in it.
Also, for heavens sake, you post was almost tollerable untill that childish remark at the end of it.
I was kindda hoping you suddenlly grew up or something, but oh well...
Anyways - It's Your word vs mine.
I think mapmaker should have a trip down and see for himself.
By the way - West stain is in full SA control, you might fail to see it due to Timezone diffrences.
He blatantly has seen for himself and has adjusted the map accordingly.
Stain = contested, delve = warzone.
As for childish remark... no, that's the reality of the map thread. If you can't understand that is what will happen then you really should think twice about posting.
Also, With regards breaking the rules, everytime you argue, you are also breaking the rules. This is a place for statements not discussion.
(yes, yes, I'm doing it too with this post, I know, but if no-one explains to the ignorant then they will never understand).
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